1. 👉Lost Angel: The Genius of Judee Sill is a fitting tribute for the cult folk legend Judee Sill. Sandercock. Her mother turned to alcohol and "downers," and re-married. . FAQ Development status RYMzilla Submissions. Her father was a cameraman, and Sill was devastated by his death when she was eight. 13. (2006) Live in London: The BBC Recordings 1972–1973. Three decades on, her music is at last finding it’s audience with. Judee Sill, an Album by Judee Sill. B1. “There’s A Rugged Road”. . Judee Sill Heart Food (1973) 1973: 1973: 52: 52. Greg Cooke - Oct 19, 2009. Featured peformers: Judee Sill (guitar, piano, vocals, composer, arranger, supervisor), Clydie King (background vocals), Venetta Fields (background vocals), Rita Coolidge. The Age of Pleasure, an Album by Janelle Monáe. Judee Sill, an Album by Judee Sill. Page 99 - 75 74 - 50 49 - 25 24 - 1 >>. i already made a list like this but it's old and i've thought way too much about this shit since so idk lets goIn November 1979, Sill was discovered, two days after she died, alone in her apartment with a needle still in her arm having overdosed on cocaine and codeine. Votes are used to help determine the most interesting content on RYM. Chilliwack Chilliwack (1971) 55: 55. 1. Author: peat. Released 16 June 2023 on BMG. Policy. Genres: Chamber Folk, Singer-Songwriter. SYLA 8751; Vinyl LP). Featured peformers: Linda Perhacs (arrangements, lyrics, music, vocals, guitar, effects), Leonard Rosenman (arrangements, producer, effects), Stephen Cohn (arrangements, 12. Judee Sill Judee Sill (1971) Linda Perhacs Parallelograms (1970) Vashti Bunyan Just Another Diamond Day (1970) Karen Brooks Lost Silence (1972) [EP] Connie Converse How Sad, How Lovely (2009) Sibylle Baier Colour Green (2006) Emmanuelle Parrenin Maison rose (1977) Karen Dalton Judee Sill. Rated #71 in the best albums of 2020, and #9093 of all time album. Author: BWF_in_Nodak. When Rhino's Handmade imprint officially released her two albums with. 5 -. The reissue is composed of 20 barebones tracks (there are three new additions) that recall the folk sensibilities of the Roches, Judee Sill, and Elverum, but it also contains traces of the Beatles. Judee Sill (born Judith Lynne Sill, October 7, 1944 – November 23, 1979) was an American singer and songwriter. JUDEE SILL. Judee Sill Heart Food (1973) Judee Sill - Heart Food March 1973 Asylum Records SD 5063: Judee Sill - Heart Food March 1973 Asylum Records SD 5063: 2: 2. POP 9 of 1973, Netherlands 12 – Dec 1972, OzNet 12, US BB 16 of 1973, RYM 26 of 1972, DDD 27 of 1972, Germany 223 of the 1970s, Acclaimed 2325. Support RYM by becoming a subscriber to access additional chart features, including: Adjust popularity weighting;. Judee Sill Articles and Media. Born in Southern California in 1944, and dead in '79, Judee Sill's life was brief, yet filled with enough dark drama to satisfy a lifespan twice that long. Find a Grave Memorial ID: 15384119. 2009 • Album • Various Artists . Info. After an adolescence of addiction, armed robbery, and prison, Judee became a uniquely influential folk musician yet never reached the fame of her contemporaries. Happy 50th anniversary to Judee Sill, one of the greatest, most underrated albums of the. もろく儚い歌声で人々を魅了し続ける彼女の72年ロンドン公演がLPリリース!!72年3月23日ロンドンはPARIS THEATRE公演を収録。. Released in 2005 on Water (catalog no. Genres: Chamber Folk, Singer-Songwriter. Released in February 1976 on Warner Bros. FAQ Development status. Rate Your Music. Featured peformers: Queens of the Stone Age (producer), Josh Homme (writer, performer, recording engineer), Troy Van Leeuwen (writer, performer), Dean Fertita (writer, performer. dunkirk 309 items Alternative RYM Chart: 2020 2023-10-04T08:45:08Z. Released in November 1970 on Kapp (catalog no. Rated #60 in the best albums of 1973, and #2171 of all time album. List and review the concerts you've attended, and track upcoming shows. fm. 25, 1950, in Decatur, Ill. ジャクソンブラウン、イーグルス、J. Judee Sill is an INFP personality type and 4w5 in Enneagram. Wilco: Yankee Hotel Foxtrot. During her lifetime she released two albums – each of which received critical acclaim, yet barely registered with the public. Album, Stereo. This fascination with Judee Sill began when one of the grande dames of the Chicago folk music scene called and invited me to stop by and listen to a new singer on a new record label called Asylum. Everything is based primarily on guitar. Featured peformers: Judee Sill (guitar, vocals, arranger, orchestration), Doug Dillard (banjo), Buddy Emmons (pedal steel guitar), Ray Kelley (cello), Bill Plummer (bass), Lynn Blessing. Judee Sill (born Judith Lynn Sill, October 7, 1944 – November 23, 1979) was an American singer and songwriter. And either road's lookin' grim. Genres: Singer-Songwriter, Chamber Folk. water197/TR01CD; CD). January 25, 2021. FAQ Development status RYMzilla Submissions. Create your first playlist It's easy, we'll help you. 3. Released in 2003 on Rhino Handmade (catalog no. If it helps, I think one of his musical influences was probably Jackson C. November 8, 2023. lang and Laura Veirs' case/lang/veirs album. 201. 5. Heart Food, an Album by Judee Sill. new music genres. Genres: Alternative Rock. lists. Sill’s first major tour was spent opening for Crosby & Nash when they toured as duo. 277. Cover [Painting] – Judee Sill. Lost Angel: The Genius of Judee Sill. Vote up content that is on-topic, within the rules/guidelines, and will likely stay relevant long-term. Database. Youtube. Released 15 September 1972 on Asylum (catalog no. Judee Sill, an Album by Judee Sill. Souther wrote 2015's "Something in the Dark" about her. 3. Judee Sill’s career had all the makings of a great singer-songwriter story. Show all 14 V/A Compilations. 5 - Sonja Åkesson tolkad av. Rex, Bowie, Slade; in the background, Floyd, Zeppelin and Sabbath. Genres: Singer-Songwriter, Chamber Folk. Soldier of the Heart: The Judee Sill Story; United States. SD 5050; Vinyl LP). These live songs are sparse featuring only Judee and her acoustic guitar or piano (she sings the horn and harpsichord solos from her records on some songs). 2012. Policy. 3. The story of Judee Sill, a relatively obscure figure from the early 70s folk-rock scene, starts as another familiar fable of showbiz tragedy. Shop for vinyl, CDs, and more from Judee Sill on Discogs. 140; CD). Home; Search; Your Library. The Beatles quit, glam came along – T. Rated #375 in the best albums of 2023. Have Yourself a Merry Indie Christmas. There are plenty of parallels between Karen Dalton and Judee Sill. Judee Sill. Share It. 48. Judee Sill's s/t debut and Heartfood SACD hybrid discs are available for pre-order from Intervention records. Ron Sexsmith - "Crayon Angel" Beth Orton - "Reach for the Sky" Daniel Rossen - "Waterfall" Frida Hyvönen - "Jesus Was a Cross Maker" Shalants - "Lopin Along Thru the Cosmos" Final Fantasy - "The Donor" Nicolai Dunger-"Soldier of. One time I trusted a stranger. Sill’s music is intensely spiritual, redolent of both mysticism and divine imagery, yet grounded by great songwriting and a pure but powerful singing talent. The tragic story of the very talented spiritual musician Judee Sill who didn’t make in LA’s 70’s music scene while other talented musicians did. The sacred and the profane pulse through the 11 songs on her self-titled debut. A list by menju56. Genres: Chamber Folk, Singer-Songwriter. Genres: Chamber Folk, Singer-Songwriter. List and review the concerts you've attended, and track upcoming shows. Released in 2005. When you rate your music, the site's music/social recommender can recommend similar music and users with similar music taste. Genres: Chamber Folk, Singer-Songwriter. 2. Lushly orchestrated, the album featured Sill's voice in multiple overdubs, often in a four-part chorale or fugue. Judee Sill — “Abracadabra” (1971) Top Stories. Released 15 September 1971 on Asylum (catalog no. RHM2 7836; CD). Released 10 April 2013 on Warner Japan (catalog no. For example, Sill's former lover J. From 10cc to XTC, from London to Lagos, from 7” singles to side-long epics, and from punk to prog to ambient to disco, our list of the greatest songs from one of. Albums include Songs for the Deaf,. RYM music Sonemic roadmap Glitchwave video games (beta) Discussion rym. Not that I have anything against Ian or anything. Genres: Singer-Songwriter, Chamber Folk, Contemporary Folk. Judee Sill, an Album by Judee Sill. Sélection par le magazine mensuel anglais MOJO d'albums considérés comme des chefs-d'oeuvre oubliés ou méconnus. . Provided to YouTube by Rhino/ElektraJesus Was a Cross Maker · Judee SillJudee Sill℗ 1971 Elektra/Asylum Records for the US and WEA International for the worl. Featured peformers: Judee Sill (guitar, piano, vocals, composer, arranger, supervisor), Clydie King (background vocals), Venetta. nb: il n' y a pas eu de buried treasure pour les n°49, 220, 224, 259, 271 & 275. Robert Maurice “Bob” Harris. Genres: Chamber Folk, Singer-Songwriter, Contemporary Folk. Secret Love 6. The sound quality is very rough, but given Sill’s catalogue is so small, it’s worth sifting through. It charts her life from a troubled adolescence of addiction, armed robbery and prison through her meteoric rise in the music world and early tragic death. Judee Sill has received quite a bit of retrospective attention in the past couple of years, with her self-titled debut record—one of only two studio releases in her discography—celebrating its 50th anniversary. O waters of the moon, your vapors swirls and swoon. MOVLP1800; Vinyl LP). Judee Sill's music style is mystic Christian folk, influenced by classical composers such as Mahler, Beethoven, and Bach. RYM Network. Provided to YouTube by Rhino/ElektraThe Phantom Cowboy (Remastered) · Judee SillJudee Sill℗ 1971 Elektra/Asylum Records for the US and WEA International for. Catharines, Ontario. Crosby shared his legendary guitar chops with the young songwriter, Judee Sill, for her self-titled 1971 debut. Though silence is your tomb. Jesus Was A Cross Maker (0:00) 2. . SD 5050; Vinyl LP). IR-SCD15; SACD). She. Sadly, tragedy was inevitable for. Heart Food, an Album by Judee Sill. Released in March 1973 on Asylum (catalog no. 80 301 301 11 11. 参照 Judee Sill (LP, Album, Reissue, 180g, Gatefold) MOVLP1800 Yes, this pressing is great. The album fit in well with the light rock/folk-rock underpinnings of what came to be known. It charts her life from a troubled. . Judee Sill, född Judith Lynne Sill den 7 oktober 1944 i Studio City, Kalifornien, död 23 november 1979 i North Hollywood, Los Angeles, var en amerikansk sångare och låtskrivare. Judee Sill Heart Food (1973) Judee Sill - Heart Food March 1973 Asylum Records SD 5063: Judee Sill - Heart Food March 1973 Asylum Records SD 5063: 2: 2. Lost Angel: The Genius of Judee Sill: Directed by Andy Brown, Brian Lindstrom. Music which is highly rated but in styles/genres outside those that you have rated, to help you expand your music taste and step out of your comfort zone. Mörser Two Hours to Doom (1997) TURN DOWN THE GUI FUCKING TAR:Judee Sill Heart Food (1973) Diana Ross Touch Me in the Morning (1973) Roxy Music For Your Pleasure (1973) Can Future Days (1973) Soft Machine Seven (1973) Roy Harper Lifemask (1973) Lou Reed Berlin (1973) Electric Light Orchestra On the Third Day (1973) T. Discography Albums. Show past shows [16] ADVERTISEMENT. Judee Sill discography and songs: Music profile for Judee Sill, born 7 October 1944. From the strewn wreckage of Kyuss rose Queens of the Stone Age, an act of shifting composition, but one undoubtedly centered around frontman Josh Homme. There are songs where the backstory can bring things to an emotional level. RYM music Sonemic roadmap Glitchwave video games (beta) Discussion rym. Judee's music sounds delicate on first listening, but her. Emitt Lynn Rhodes was born on Feb. Balanced and full sounding, it's an absolute godsend for those unable to afford the Intervention pressing and unsatisfied with the flat and overly loud 4MWB pressing (not to mention that label logo which felt completely out of place on a Judee Sill. 4 Extra Debut. @I do not own the copyright to this recording so if it needs to be removed, I will remove it. By the time she was 20, she had an annulled marriage behindLady-O (Song for Judee) By Jessie Lynn McMains. Released in March 1973 on Asylum (catalog no. Genres: Singer-Songwriter, Contemporary Folk. Read 2 discussions on Judee Sill's personality in Country & Folk (Musician). RYM music Sonemic roadmap Glitchwave video games (beta) Discussion rym. OLE1947DA; Lossless Digital). I'm stoked but I'd rather they offer a DSD download since every new DAC plays DSD but SACD is a dead format with anti-piracy measures that make it very difficult to get pure DSD from disc to external DAC. Michael Ochs Archives. Backing musicians include John Beck and Jim Pons from the Leaves. Queens of the Stone Age discography and songs: Music profile for Queens of the Stone Age, formed 1996. flag. RYMzilla. djorkaeff 16 items Where the Minimalism meets JAZZ Music 2023-10-20T14:33. Featured peformers: Josh Homme (vocals, lyrics, producer), Mark Rankin (engineer), Alain Johannes (assistant engineer), Justin Smith. Released 22 May 2007 on Water (catalog no. Genres: Psychedelic Folk, Singer-Songwriter. You sure picked all the tearjerkers. 3. Released in 2005 on Water (catalog no. . Rated #63 in the best albums of 1973, and #2188 of all time album. Episodes 7 and 8 of the Josh Brolin-led supernatural drama, now streaming on Prime Video, exposed old secrets, revealed new truths and. Judee Sill Her early home life was characterized by its turmoil; she lost her mother, father and brother all before she turned 25. When Sill's alcoholic mother, Oneta, upped sticks for southern California, she met and married Tom and Jerry animator Ken Muse. Released in 2017 on Music on Vinyl (catalog no. Judee Sill, an Album by Judee Sill. Rated #1199 in the best albums of 1972. He was associated with the Chicago experimental and improv scene when he relocated to New York City in 2000. When Judee Sill died in late 1979 from a heroin overdose, she had been forgotten for the most part by the music industry at large and remembered by her friends as a talented but troubled soul who experienced more heartbreak and tragedy than was her due: she was an orphan, had been abused as a child, did stints in reform school and jail,. Judee Sill, an Album by Judee Sill. There were significant differences in cause of death by music genre membership. Rex – 29 Goin' Back to Indiana. Genres: Chamber Folk, Singer-Songwriter. 46. Together the documentary and the record trace the fading mythical trail of the electrification of the Cape Verdean funana music. 7. ” — Stephen Holden, RS 135 (May 24th, 1973) Load Previous Karen Dalton, ‘In My Own Time’ Folk legend Karen Dalton was the muse of MacDougal Street, the inspiration for “Katie’s Been Gone” (on Dylan and the Band’s Basement Tapes. Rex Tanx (1973)Townes Van Zandt, Judee Sill, Red House Painters, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, Bruce Springsteen, Sonic Youth. Earlier today, Radio 4 broadcast Ruth Barnes' new documentary on Judee Sill, the Californian singer-songwriter who released two albums, Judee Sill and Heart Food, in the early 70s before passing away at just 35 in 1979. Author: youngzoomer777. Her vocals feel like a modern, albeit slightly formulaic take on Judee Sill. 0 from 1,762 ratings Ranked #73 for 1973, #2,538 overall: RYM Rating 3. 2022. Profile: American singer/songwriter born October 7, 1944 in Los Angeles and died on November 23, 1979 (drug overdose). Provided to YouTube by Rhino/ElektraThe Lamb Ran Away with the Crown (Remastered) · Judee SillJudee Sill℗ 1971 Elektra/Asylum Records for the US and WEA Inte. Listen to Judee Sill on Spotify. 0 from 33 ratings Ranked #289 for 1972: Genres. Catalog, rate, tag, and review your music. An intimate portrait of 1970’s singer-songwriter, Judee Sill. Database. Albums include Judee Sill, Heart Food, and Dreams Come True: Hi • I Love You Right Heartily Here • New Songs. The Lost Genius of Judee Sill. Vote up content that is on-topic, within the rules/guidelines, and will likely stay relevant long-term. . Genres: Singer-Songwriter, Contemporary Folk. ” — Stephen Holden, RS 135 (May 24th, 1973) Karen Dalton, ‘In My Own Time’ Folk legend Karen Dalton was the muse of MacDougal Street, the inspiration for “Katie’s Been Gone” (on Dylan and the Band’s Basement Tapes recordings). All the music snob stuff and the corny stuff. The eight songs that were to comprise that album are included here, freshly mixed by producer Jim O'Rourke (Wilco, Sonic Youth). Judee Sill: Soldier of the Heart. Jim O'Rourke (born January 18, 1969) is an American musician, composer and record producer. Real Name: Judith Lynne Sill. The album employed the production skills of ex-Turtle, ex-Leaves Jim Pons and Graham Nash (on the album's sole single, Jesus Was s Crossmaker). Reviewed in the United States on April 2, 2011. charts. 17: 17. [2] He began releasing recordings of his own material in 1985 at age 21, and has since recorded seventeen albums. Judee Sill - The PearlJoni, Linda, the Eagles—all fine people (presumably) and musicians, but there was another who was treading the treacherous road of the music industry with them in the 1970s and has since been relegated to a niche, considered an insider’s artist: Judee Sill. Judee Sill was really a gem. Dear RYMers, this Thank You List is for You! by Verminous, ️ Favorite RYM profile image galeries by JessiEye, RYMers who received many "likes" by dunkirk, 🧮 and now. September 15, 2021. [Post-Chorus] Sweet silver angels over the sea. She was born in California in 1944 to a hard-drinking mother and a father who was an exotic animal importer and amateur herpetologist. Tell me how you come ridin' through. SD 5063; Vinyl LP). Released in March 1973 on Asylum (catalog no. (2007) Abracadabra: The Asylum Years is a 2006 compilation album by American folk musician Judee Sill . T he Oscars were an ordeal for Sufjan Stevens. Sometimes songs by people who had a tragic end can be that way for me. Uncut: Dig In! - 15 Tracks of the Month's Best Music. [Verse 3. I coulda sworn I heard my spirit soarin'. Lindstrom also directed and edited Finding Normal (for an impressively low $5,000), a documentary that follows long-term addicts. 78 / 5. fm. ) float in and out of the songs without ever resorting to plagiarism, simply because this is a heartfelt, and dare I say frequently lovely, recording, totally devoid of the. Her vocals feel like a modern, albeit slightly formulaic take on Judee Sill. 3. Released in 1973 on Asylum (catalog no. . Kindle Customer. Judee Sill was released in 1971 to immediate acclaim. A bereft Sill finally went into the studio, with Geffen okaying John Beck and Jim Pons as producers. Lift like a trumpet shout and the bridegroom come. Graham Nash produced the first single for her first album, "Jesus Was A Cross Maker," released to radio in 1971—the album Judee Sill soon followed. Page 1 - 50 51 - 88 >>. SD 5050; Vinyl LP). Where we sit down with industry professionals and talk about their latest projects, influences, the state of the industry and all things under the sun. She was not the typical Laurel Canyon hippie. When Sill's alcoholic mother, Oneta, upped sticks for southern California, she met and married Tom and Jerry animator Ken Muse. “Her family lent me her journal, which was. Weyes Blood keeps interest by constantly building momentum, providing quite the maximalist state towards the end. —case /. Vote up content that is on-topic, within. By all accounts her teenage years were not. FAQ Development status RYMzilla Submissions. 2012 • DJ Mix • Nicolás Jaar +1. A year later, "Song for Judee" appeared on Neko Case, k. Yes, Jesus was a cross maker. The compilation appears at a time when reissues of unjustly overlooked folk singers like Judee Sill, Vashti Bunyan, Bridget St. Parallelograms, an Album by Linda Perhacs. lists. Brian Lindstrom is a Portland-based documentary filmmaker, whose recent film Alien Boy covers the life and death of James Chasse, a man with schizophrenia who was killed at the hands of Portland police. (Feel free to add suggestions. #JudeeDoc #JudeeSillDoc #JudeeSill #lindaronstadt #docnyc #music #fleetfoxes #bigthief #grahamnash #songwriter #documentary Filmmaker and Host Antonio Sailla. Genres: Singer-Songwriter, Chamber Folk, Contemporary Folk. In a. “Good Things Happen to Bad People” has the great lyric, perfect, grinding hook, and is an exceptionally catchy song. The Los Angeles musician and composer completed two exquisite albums in the early 1970s in what she called her “country-cult-baroque” style, filled with “licks of Pentecostal fury,” but her critics, documentarians, and fans alike often. A big day coming now. Released in 2017 on Music on Vinyl (catalog no. Whatever the truth is, Sill’s music remains and, over 40 years later, still sounds. 4M121; Vinyl LP). Database. FAQ Development status RYMzilla Submissions. Judee Sill discography and songs: Music profile for Judee Sill, born 7 October 1944. The Life and Times of Judee Sill. Judee Sill, an Album by Judee Sill. FAQ Development status RYMzilla. Judee Sill was born in Oakland in 1944. 201 5 Day of the Dead. But I just find her music to be so enriching. Abracadabra (Remastered) 2:03. Crayon Angels. The 35 club. You've got a big day coming. Her death was ruled a suicide, but those close to her still think it was just a tragic accident. Judee Sill, an Album by Judee Sill. She had such a sad life story yet so much of her music was about hope and dreams when she could have been like Ian Curtis and sang about being depressed and alone and isolated. Peter Kenney, Brian Lindstrom. The musical -- and production -- quality on Dreams Come True is high, given that it was recorded in a professional studio. Policy. And what an ending. She was implicated in a series of robberies before she even. Heart Food, an Album by Judee Sill. Before becoming the first artist to be signed to Asylum records she lived a difficult life of crime, drug-use and Judee Sill, an Album by Judee Sill. 86 / 5. When he found out about that, it was all over for Judee. Crayon Angel: A Tribute to the Music of Judee Sill. Rated #63 in the best albums of 1971, and #2186 of all time album. When Sill's alcoholic mother, Oneta, upped sticks for southern California, she met and married Tom and Jerry animator Ken Muse. Rated #64 in the best albums of 1971, and #2190 of all time album. Music On Vinyl – MOVLP1800, Asylum Records – MOVLP1800. Released in 1971 on Asylum (catalog no. Heart Food, an Album by Judee Sill. STREAM OR BUY:Edit Artist Releases Showing 0 - 0 of 0 Explore music from Judee Sill. Judee Sill, an Album by Judee Sill. They have been bootlegged for years, passed from person to person among the -- then few -- faithful on ragged umpteenth-generation cassettes. Genres: Pop, Adult Contemporary. Michael Nesmith Pretty Much Your Standard Ranch Stash (1973) Michael Nesmith - Pretty Much Your Standard Ranch Stash 1973 Pacific Arts Records PAC7-117 1973 Island Records ILPS. Genres: Chamber Folk, Singer-Songwriter. Rated #60 in the best albums of 1973, and #2123 of all time album. And no space on earth to place it. After a chaotic youth of. Lost Angel: The Genius of Judee Sill is an intimate documentary portrait of a one-of-a-kind singer-songwriter from 1970s LA – Judee Sill. Judee Sill Heart Food (1973) Chris Thompson Chris Thompson (1973) Silmaril The Voyage of Icarus (2007) Steve Ashley Stroll On (1974) Michael Yonkers Grimwood (1974). Heart Food, an Album by Judee Sill. Lost Angel: The Genius of Judee Sill aims to set the record straight through interviews with contemporary artists including Weyes Blood, Fleet Foxes and Big Thief’s Adrienne Lenke; as well as. Aimin' true, its sting goes reachin' to the. Support RYM by becoming a subscriber to access additional chart features, including: I have a question that I want some opinion on. Singer/songwriter Judee Sill died of a heroin overdose in 1979 before she completed her third album. Location: UK. The second disc includes ‘Dead Time Bummer Blues’, a track that garage-rock band The Seeds recorded in 1966. Featured peformers: Judee Sill (guitar, piano, vocals, composer, arranger, supervisor), Clydie King (background vocals), Venetta Fields (background vocals), Rita Coolidge. Genres: Indie Pop, Twee Pop, Dream Pop. Ron Sexsmith. By. Andreeee 2 lists 10 items. Lost Angel: The Genius of Judee Sill. When Judee Sill saw the light of day in early 1972, it was the first album on Asylum.